Save Teen Titans!

Aaah, the email attack. That reminds me...
Linda said "The hell with it, we'll make our OWN He-Man show, and they can just deal with it."

Last year "Charmed" was on the way out, but at the last second it was saved. I know there was an email campaign but I doubt that it had any major say in the whole issue of renewal of contracts.

From what I have seen, from the out side, the driving force to put a show on the air is sponsorship. If money can be made then the show, "Charmed", "Teentitans", or "He-Man" will be made.

Fri, 01/20/2006 - 3:14pm

(Reply to #3) #4

Aleph66

Comic books are usually tediously and poorly-written. For a screen adaptation to follow the comic book word-for-word and concept-for-concept would be extremely stupid.

...I dunno...

Road To Perdition stuck to the concept and came out pretty good. So did A History of Violence.

Ghost World wasn't bad, either.

Neither was Hellboy. Or American Splendor

(But, then, these weren't conventional "comic books," either. So take the above with a grain of salt... :D)

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Fri, 01/20/2006 - 4:37pm

(Reply to #4) #5

Aleph66,
None of those movies you mention are "word-for-word" adaptations, so I don't see how you're refuting me. They all deviate from the source material, if only slightly.

A much better example would have been Sin City, which is nearly scene-for-scene and stylistically borrows heavily from the comic book. Still, they brought much to the movie that was never in the comic book, including interesting acting and backgrounds.

Fri, 01/20/2006 - 6:44pm

(Reply to #5) #6

Aleph66

Aleph66,
None of those movies you mention are "word-for-word" adaptations, so I don't see how you're refuting me. They all deviate from the source material, if only slightly.

A much better example would have been Sin City, which is nearly scene-for-scene and stylistically borrows heavily from the comic book. Still, they brought much to the movie that was never in the comic book, including interesting acting and backgrounds.

(Oy, gevalt...) Fine. 'ave it your way, guv'nor.

And throw in Pogo For President and the Spawn miniseries for good measure.

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Fri, 01/20/2006 - 7:32pm

(Reply to #6) #7

(Oy, gevalt...) Fine. 'ave it your way, guv'nor.

If you tire so easily when someone responds to you in a debate, then you probably shouldn't be debating in the first place.

Fri, 01/20/2006 - 9:25pm

(Reply to #7) #8

Pooryorik

A couple of them had this villian called Mad Mod (voiced by Malcolm McDowell) who was sort of an Austin Powers 1960s guy.
The animation in one of these episodes parodied stylized animation of the 1960s like Terry Gilliam's and Yellow Submarine.
http://www.titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=307&page=5
Another of these episodes had op art everywhere.
http://www.titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=110&page=5

Ah, beautiful screenshots! Makes me want to watch the show all over again.

Sat, 01/28/2006 - 8:08pm

(Reply to #8) #9

Aleph66

If you tire so easily when someone responds to you in a debate, then you probably shouldn't be debating in the first place.

You, sir, are absolutely correct. I've no business putting in my $0.02 in matters cinematic. At 1500+ posts, this is clearly your world. And I am clearly a tourist. I apologize unreservedly for any emotional/psychological distress that my callow and wrongheaded posts might have caused you (and, no, I'm not being sarcastic). From this post onward, you may be assured that I shall keep my counsel in this, and any other topic*.

HELLBOY!!!?!?!? What a stinker. What a HUGE disappointment. The screen should have been FILLED with black. 3/4 of every shot should have been ALL black. But they lost their nerve and made just another Hollywood movie based on a comic. They totally ignored the look of the comic entirely. Sure they have article and special after special about how they limited the color pallete to try and get the look, but they failed, and not a little either. It was far from edgy and stylistic, it was just like every other Hollywood film. Blech

Jinkies. Don't sugar-coat it. Tell us what you really think. :)

*other than my Daily Sketch thread, that is.

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Sun, 01/29/2006 - 4:16am

(Reply to #9) #10

You, sir, are absolutely correct. I've no business putting in my $0.02 in matters cinematic. At 1500+ posts, this is clearly your world. And I am clearly a tourist. I apologize unreservedly for any emotional/psychological distress that my callow and wrongheaded posts might have caused you (and, no, I'm not being sarcastic). From this post onward, you may be assured that I shall keep my counsel in this, and any other topic*.

I don't think his point was that you shouldn't post or contribute, but that you gave up so easily.

(Oy, gevalt...) Fine. 'ave it your way, guv'nor.

And throw in Pogo For President and the Spawn miniseries for good measure.

It was as if you threw your hands up in the air, said, "I give up, but I'm still right" and failed to say anything to prove it.

Jinkies. Don't sugar-coat it. Tell us what you really think. :)

Sorry, I get worked up when it comes to the squandered potential of Hellboy. :(

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Sun, 01/29/2006 - 5:25am

(Reply to #10) #11

It was as if you threw your hands up in the air, said, "I give up, but I'm still right" and failed to say anything to prove it.

Thanks, kdiddy, for reading my mind. :cool: Better to make no reply at all than to make a lazy and surly reply.
[u][i][b]
Justice League is also being cancelled.[/b][/i][/u]
It's a show I actually enjoy, and - with its cancellation - there is now nothing for me to watch on Cartoon Network besides a few Adult Swim shows.

Sun, 01/29/2006 - 7:42am

(Reply to #11) #12

Thanks, kdiddy, for reading my mind. :cool: Better to make no reply at all than to make a lazy and surly reply.

No problem. I was reluctant to put words in your mouth. I was hoping that was what you were saying, because I was thinking it, too.

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Sun, 01/29/2006 - 1:14pm

(Reply to #12) #13

Thanks, kdiddy, for reading my mind. :cool: Better to make no reply at all than to make a lazy and surly reply.
[u][i][b]
Justice League is also being cancelled.[/b][/i][/u]
It's a show I actually enjoy, and - with its cancellation - there is now nothing for me to watch on Cartoon Network besides a few Adult Swim shows.

Gees, what is with these guys? I just read the AWN article on pitching so based on that these shows are not fitting into Cartoon Networks goals? They are replaying "Justice League" with "Bobobo..."?

Fri, 01/06/2006 - 3:06pm

(Reply to #13) #14

Is there someone who knows if the "Teen Titans" got renewed?

Fri, 01/06/2006 - 3:12pm

(Reply to #14) #15

SpaceGhost2K

I can't say that I'll miss it, although there were occasional inventive episodes that animation fans might want to check out.

A couple of them had this villian called Mad Mod (voiced by Malcolm McDowell) who was sort of an Austin Powers 1960s guy.
The animation in one of these episodes parodied stylized animation of the 1960s like Terry Gilliam's and Yellow Submarine.
http://www.titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=307&page=5
Another of these episodes had op art everywhere.
http://www.titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=110&page=5

Maybe they'll replace it with a show about an interesting superhero. I vote for Fly Guy. :D

Bless you.

Sun, 01/29/2006 - 2:18pm

(Reply to #15) #16

Gees, what is with these guys? I just read the AWN article on pitching so based on that these shows are not fitting into Cartoon Networks goals? They are replaying "Justice League" with "Bobobo..."?

What's Bobobo....? Or don't I want to know?

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Sun, 01/29/2006 - 4:41pm

(Reply to #16) #17

What's Bobobo....? Or don't I want to know?

I know you know what "Bobobo" is. You are just trying to get me to say it...and it worked. :D

Bobobo is a character with eight foot nose hairs that he uses to fight evil.

Sun, 01/29/2006 - 4:54pm

(Reply to #17) #18

I know you know what "Bobobo" is. You are just trying to get me to say it...and it worked. :D

Bobobo is a character with eight foot nose hairs that he uses to fight evil.

I've got to make some friends.... with cable.... who don't mind watching cartoons. All I've got is WB, Fox and PBS.

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Sun, 01/29/2006 - 7:02pm

(Reply to #18) #19

bobobobobobobo

Bobobo is a character with eight foot nose hairs that he uses to fight evil.

That is one creepy-looking TV show, and I've only seen screenshots. I might have to swear off television until that thing is off the air.

Mon, 01/30/2006 - 11:44am

(Reply to #19) #20

DIEMERAS Dark Angel

Wow

This is good news to me. sorry.

This show is horrible. It is like american anime. Way too many of the cliche anime expressions it is just annoying. Ive watched it a few times, the characters are pretty dull. This stupid show tookover Samurai Jacks spot on the station.

Worst trade off ever. Im glad.

Ha, that was a little mean don't you think, but oh so true :p it's story appeals to a younger generation but for those who look at the true context of what an animation is will realise that it does have it's flaws.
However, I will miss it :o

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Mon, 01/30/2006 - 4:27pm

(Reply to #20) #21

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SaveTTitans :)

Ha, that was a little mean don't you think, but oh so true :p it's story appeals to a younger generation but for those who look at the true context of what an animation is will realise that it does have it's flaws.
However, I will miss it :o

I liked the show, but I was not watching it for its animation. I thought they did an excellent job of developing interesting storylines. My main gripe with the show was the uneven flow of its storyline over its very short season. A hit or miss type thing.

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 11:48am

(Reply to #21) #22

starfire1418

For Those Who Want To Save Tt

PLEASE GO TO THIS SITE:

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 12:22pm

(Reply to #22) #23

PLEASE GO TO THIS SITE:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SaveTTitans :)

Online petitions are useless.
The show will only be renewed if enough DVDs are sold, which isn't going to happen.
The show is gone. Move on.

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 1:37pm

(Reply to #23) #24

Online petitions are useless.
The show will only be renewed if enough DVDs are sold, which isn't going to happen.
The show is gone. Move on.

I have yet to see any official news release about the "Teen Titans" As for as I have heard, the show has been moved to "WB". In commercials I keep seening "Teen Titan" toys so unless they are burning off product, they show could still be in production. They only make 13 epsiodes a season, for a big studio that should be a cake walk.

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 2:51pm

(Reply to #24) #25

Neither was Hellboy.

HELLBOY!!!?!?!? What a stinker. What a HUGE disappointment. The screen should have been FILLED with black. 3/4 of every shot should have been ALL black. But they lost their nerve and made just another Hollywood movie based on a comic. They totally ignored the look of the comic entirely. Sure they have article and special after special about how they limited the color pallete to try and get the look, but they failed, and not a little either. It was far from edgy and stylistic, it was just like every other Hollywood film. Blech.

No. Most comic book movies have little to do with, look or story, the original medium other than a passing similarity to the storyline and sometimes characters. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it's not. With Hellboy it was definitely not.

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Fri, 01/27/2006 - 3:43pm

(Reply to #25) #26

I have yet to see any official news release about the "Teen Titans" As for as I have heard, the show has been moved to "WB".

Please show me the "official news release" that says a 6th season of Teen Titans will be broadcast on WB.
Please show me any production reports on season 6.

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 3:50pm

(Reply to #26) #27

Most comic book movies have little to do with, look or story, the original medium other than a passing similarity to the storyline and sometimes characters. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it's not.

Occasionally a movie adaptation is better - BECAUSE it deviated from the source - and your post had me considering those movies:
Superman the Movie, the Fleischer Superman shorts, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2, Akira, X-men 2, Sin City, Dick Tracy.

Smallville, the television show, is better than the old Superboy comic books it's loosely based on.

Sometimes a movie is worse than its source, but still very good. The Popeye cartoon series of the '30s is an example of this.

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 5:23pm

(Reply to #27) #28

Please show me the "official news release" that says a 6th season of Teen Titans will be broadcast on WB.
Please show me any production reports on season 6.

No can do and I have looked. I should have said I have not seen any official news release on the "Teen Titans", other than the schedule change.

Fri, 01/27/2006 - 5:33pm

(Reply to #28) #29

(1)
http://www.animationinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?p=363187#post363187

No can do and I have looked. I should have said I have not seen any official news release on the "Teen Titans", other than the schedule change.

You have looked and seen a schedule change, but you can't tell me where you've seen it?

Pardon me for being skeptical. :rolleyes:cubed

Fri, 01/20/2006 - 10:56am

(Reply to #29) #30

starfire1418

FOR tHOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TT BACK

TEEN TITANS FANS LET'S GET UNITED TO TV.COM , ANIMATION INSIDER, AND TITANS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO SAVE TT SERIES

Animation Insider, has a plan to make video representation of the fans who want TT back. and if you know of anyother TT sites, please relay my and PhantomT1tan's message of the following.

Save TT plans:

(2) on February 4, 2006 at 8:30 P.M. Eastern Time Zone, we are planning to E-mail Cartoon Network as a group.

thanks for wanting to help the cause.

Sat, 01/28/2006 - 3:09am

(Reply to #30) #31

Occasionally a movie adaptation is better - BECAUSE it deviated from the source - and your post had me considering those movies:
Superman the Movie, the Fleischer Superman shorts, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2, Akira, X-men 2, Sin City, Dick Tracy.

Absolutely.
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Mon, 11/28/2005 - 9:49am

(Reply to #31) #32

ghDude

it is starting to get good, new villians..
guy named hotspot, plus beast boys past team last week episode...

Mon, 11/28/2005 - 10:37am

(Reply to #32) #33

pcdoctor

I have watched the show a few times. I'm surprised it's being cancelled.

Mon, 11/28/2005 - 2:39pm

(Reply to #33) #34

blinkmetoys

This is good news to me. sorry.

This show is horrible. It is like american anime. Way too many of the cliche anime expressions it is just annoying. Ive watched it a few times, the characters are pretty dull. This stupid show tookover Samurai Jacks spot on the station.

Worst trade off ever. Im glad.

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Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:40pm

(Reply to #34) #35

I can't say that I'll miss it, although there were occasional inventive episodes that animation fans might want to check out.

A couple of them had this villian called Mad Mod (voiced by Malcolm McDowell) who was sort of an Austin Powers 1960s guy.
The animation in one of these episodes parodied stylized animation of the 1960s like Terry Gilliam's and Yellow Submarine.
http://www.titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=307&page=5
Another of these episodes had op art everywhere.
http://www.titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=110&page=5

Maybe they'll replace it with a show about an interesting superhero. I vote for Plastic Man. :D

Mon, 11/28/2005 - 3:40pm

(Reply to #35) #36

http://www.petitiononline.com/jn2llt/petition.html

Could you name your source, I have seen nothing on the show being canceled. The problem may not be with Cartoon Network but with the sponcers. "Teen Titans" as always be measly with their epsiods. Thirteen (13) epsiodes seen over a fiftytwo (52) week schedule is not great viewing.

I do watch and I find it a passable show.

Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:02pm

(Reply to #36) #37

Al Nickerson

Could you name your source, I have seen nothing on the show being canceled.

I heard about the cancellation of The Teen Titans from Titanstower.com.

Ya know, it took me a long while to find the appeal of The Teen Titans animated series. Eventually, the show grew on me, and I feel in love with the characters, designs, and stories.

I will be quite sad to see the show cancelled.

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Mon, 11/28/2005 - 6:29pm

(Reply to #37) #38

Al Nickerson

The cancellation is also mentioned at Titansgo.net and at Toonzone.net.

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Tue, 11/29/2005 - 2:20am

(Reply to #38) #39

pcdoctor

I never knew the show was on this long. I just recently discovered the show last year because of my seven year old cousin. During that time I found out that Hi Hi Pufy Yumi sing the theme song. I heard that Cartoon Network normally only runs a show for 52 episodes. I assume TT has done more than 52.

Tue, 11/29/2005 - 6:53am

(Reply to #39) #40

ghDude

I heard that Cartoon Network normally only runs a show for 52 episodes. I assume TT has done more than 52.

that would be interesting.. was that why Dexter's lab, powerpuff girls and Johnny bravo are no longer on..
although I think they had more than 52 episodes.

Tue, 11/29/2005 - 8:35am

(Reply to #40) #41

Al Nickerson

Newsarama now has an article about the cancellation of The Teen Titans.

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Tue, 11/29/2005 - 4:54pm

(Reply to #41) #42

cartoonchaos

Teen Titans Lets GO

Well, if you want to go proactive about Teen Titans, there is (of course) an online petition set to save it.

I like Teen Titans. Its a cute marriage between East and West animation. Actually, I think its a tiny little homage to FLCL with those toony anime expressions. You take those great takes, mix it with the DC characters.... its like the WB execs took everything thats profitable (or everything THEY think is profitable) and put it in a big bowl and..... oh wait.... :confused:

Eh, I still like it. Go rock the vote. Look what Family Guy's fans did.

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Tue, 11/29/2005 - 6:38pm

(Reply to #42) #43

Look what Family Guy's fans did.

Family Guy returned because of DVD sales (around the top 10 for a year or two).
Teen Titans' DVDs aren't selling very well (#2150).
If you want to save your show, your best bet might be to quickly get all the cheapskate fans of the show to buy every single Teen Titan DVD.
They are pretty cheap. On Amazon, you'll pay less that $50 for four DVD sets.

Wed, 11/30/2005 - 11:01am

(Reply to #43) #44

DeadSquid

teen titans isn't "american anime". at first i rolled my eyes when i saw some of the anime takes and expressions. and then i reallized they weren't over used and fit the contexts they were used in.

they knew what they were doing with the show. they've even come up with a few if their own unique takes. like the episode where robin had to take kitten to the prom. starfire's mouth slid off her face and into the punch bowl.

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Wed, 11/30/2005 - 5:01pm

(Reply to #44) #45

blinkmetoys

some episodes HAMMER out the anime expressions like they are going out of fashion.

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Thu, 12/01/2005 - 12:41pm

(Reply to #45) #46

DOOM2099

It is very hard to like this show, when the characters are 100% NOT true to what has been written for 50 years in DC Comics. TV and movie executives will never learn that you don't have to change everything around and make it hip and cool for the "current" gen. Just make it GOOD, and you won't have this problem.

But, instead, they feed us this crap, and we wonder why it's getting cancelled. I dunno, maybe cuz it sucks.

And anime is quickly losing its popularity, Thank Christ. I am sick of seeing anime influences ruin everything in our culture. How is simplifying the art and drawing characters real crappy with stilted dialogue better than what we had before? IT AINT!

Teen Titans is crap and deserves to be canceled, just for insulting the original material the way they did.

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Thu, 12/01/2005 - 1:10pm

(Reply to #46) #47

It is very hard to like this show, when the characters are 100% NOT true to what has been written for 50 years in DC Comics. TV and movie executives will never learn that you don't have to change everything around and make it hip and cool for the "current" gen.

You seem to be conveniently forgetting that the comics themselves revise their characters every few years to make them more "hip and cool for the current gen."

And since when has a movie or TV show been "100% true" to the comic book?
1960s Batman TV show? No.
Superman movie? No.
X-men movie? No.
Spider-man movie? No.
Justice League show? No.

Comic books are usually tediously and poorly-written. For a screen adaptation to follow the comic book word-for-word and concept-for-concept would be extremely stupid.

Thu, 12/01/2005 - 4:02pm

(Reply to #47) #48