Now, I have seen the humiliating comments you have made about my character, and the constant intrusion of my lifestyle, I have done nothing wrong except wrongfully reveal such personal matters in the first place, and for this I am paying the price.
But what has me in "beriless" is the fact that you all claim to be civil, but still you continue to bring up the topic, I will not despise or dispose any of you because I brag so highly of all of you, in particular the persons named...
"Animated Ape" "Skinny Lizard" and "Harvey Human" you are like role models to me and listen, I look up to no one except the all mighty.
I am what I say I am and it is always hard for anyone to believe that I at such a young age have attained my dreams,(well, most of it), I lost many friends because of this, their envious rage cost me my car, a water fountain and my dog, I am always cautious of who I confide in...but I will never forget the day I came HOME, so extatic and spoke of the forum AWN, "my home away from home."
I am incredibly smart, and I am a good boy,(sometimes, hey, I can't help it, bad guys have more fun), I am surrounded by respectable people, so I try my best to mingle, and when the ebb of day falls and I end yet another work day, I transform into a normal teen and wisk myself off to school, I am well respected by his peers, you might even say I'm popular, I say this, because I always has visitors and girls outside almost everyday calling my name to go some party or go.."hang out" hey, what can I say, I have a great life.
I understand that my character is very hard to believe, even for me, but I only wish I was not so sincere and I wish I didn't expose himself, but what's done is done, I am working on a show for a studio and I hate the attitude of the company, the only reason why I stay is the fact that this studio has me working at the WB:) , but I am looking to find a way to escape the studio by finding another, I'm sure I will, I BELIEVE in myself, and I believe in god and he has never failed me yet. To the people of AWN cease this debate pertaining to my character, I am here to meet people in the business and help those attain their dreams, if I can, because I am so young and this is the internet I must act wisely, so far I have not done that l, but you are my "friends" support me through this hour, for patience is a virtue, you will learn everything about me in time to come.
P.S I thank you for taking the time to listen, may you all find success, and NO! I am not full of it, I'm just honest.:D
He who seeks the truth, must first empty his heart of a false pursuit.
Diemeras Dark Angel
when i was 17 i lived in a dorm with about 6 girls living in 2 rooms next to me and two across.
its called Paradise, i dont recall having anything other than them on my mind...
in fact i still
*cough* *cough*
where is the storyboard
Harvey , I don't want to fight with anyone here ( I just don't care for you) that is why I put you on my ignore list and told you to email me. I forgot that it must block you from emailing me. Anyway, now you are off so anytime you wish to say anything go right ahead. I just don't think this is the place.
you guys should listen to Juan1. I am Diemeras.
Juan, you are welcome to email me also. I don't mind showing you any of my work or anything. I also hate to say it but there are plenty of people that write like Angel ( without the castle age thing) . Maybe you are Diemeras.
Unlike him , I don't claim to be a writer .
boo hoo
boo hoo hoo hoo
*sob*
K-k-killjoy, we shared so much.
How could you just abandon me like this?
Don't you remember that time we shared on Brokeback Mountain?
I wish I could quit you.
*sob*
boo hoo hoo hoo
boo hoo
Tears on my pillow
Pain in my heart
caused by you
you you you you
Oh crap! Hahahaha! I guess that dates me a bit as well. In all honesty though, there is still nothing like the ol' Commodore Amiga for line-testing animation. I still have yet to see a better, faster method of shooting multiple levels of stuff and seeing it played back at real time immediately. You are right though... I should take that off. The younger generation does not even know what it is! LOL. It is a good thing I did not list the Q.A.R. or Lion Lamb systems.
Cheers
"Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard" - Paul Simon
Unlocked.
the Ape
...we must all face a choice, between what is right... and what is easy."
all I want is to talk about animation...
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Well..you can't win them all:o I can't help address your problem that's your opinion, but I will say this, I am young yes, but that in it self says a lot, I am just a baby some say, 17 is not very old, hey I'm not even legal yet, I still have a long way to go before I can even try to contest you guys, and quite frankly I WANT YOU TO TEACH ME.
I never intended on lying, in fact I never did, but let's not debate this again, I can't stand it, my story is very unrealistic, I know, but I mean what I say, I still need my parents to sighn certain papers and so on, and my agent helps me understand the principils of this industry, but I still want to learn more, hence, a mentor suggested a forum, I searched many sites until I found this one, it is the best anD dare I say, most sophisticated:) Animation Nation, please, that site looks like a 5yr old's preschool art project, Charles and the others really need to work on that, because, how do they expect to be taken seriously, there is no impression like a first impression and you must strive to make it....ostentatious.
Anywho, to you guys I say, don't hold me in degraded thoughts, I like you guys and I want to learn from you, I'm still a kid and I'm not afraid to say it, it's just, I got lucky that's all, how many 17 year olds can say they're a producer working on their own show:rolleyes: not many, but don't be fooled, I'm not the only one.
Cease this, and let us return to our daily "doings" I caused a little drama, good, it's time to get back to being civil adults, (exclude me as adult) I want to learn more and hopefully help others, Animated Ape and all those who tried to stop this, thank you so much, and I will always owe ya, but remember this everyone........................................DIEMERAS will always be.................
your friend:cool:
Ain't I just a crazy kid.
He who seeks the truth, must first empty his heart of a false pursuit.
Diemeras Dark Angel
I'm curious as to why "some" users think this forum is a tool to slam one another? If you want to be a "debate nerd", go to college and study law.
Really...is this forum NOT more so meant to BUILD relationships, mentor people, support one another and establish a friendly community?
Is anyone else out there in the community getting tired of the "forum mob" who think their personal role is to insult, slander, or attempt to bring shame on fellow creative minds?
How about you stop the noise and lets get back to the purpose of this forum. to network, support, train, mentor, promote and just be there for each other.
You know who YOU are and so do us readers!!!
Enough of your bantering concerning who I am, I just want to get back to talking about animation.....and yes..I can speak proper english for your information....concerning the clips.....they are due in 5 months, I thought that after that attack harvey made against me..that I wouldn't be back here in a long time....instead, I'll upload some concept designs, I am afraid though of plagairism.
Harvey.......I do not appreciate the way you flamed me for revealing who I am....imagine that..I got ridiculed for telling you the members who I am, you obviously have problems with me but do not fear....I do not think of you as a ......"WHORE DOWN BARBIE":) SORRY.
Ani Ape is trying his best to put a stop to this,and I shall not let his efforts go undone, as for you Skinny, I like your BRUTAL honesty....but I did not flame Bioptix, for a matter of fact we have cleared that up, and trying to use Ani Ape as a means of supporting your claims...Persuasive Discourse:o please...do better than that, I am no fool. I however like FOsters HOme....It is a great concept, and the animation suits it to a T, (mind my english) I just wanted to show you how I would have talked if I didn't care, any way I will talk to Harvey..because if he is no "punk" like Killjoy adequately put it....members he will post back.
He who seeks the truth, must first empty his heart of a false pursuit.
Diemeras Dark Angel
How's about we support, train and mentor the genuine folks and call out the frauds for what they are? If a juvenile person , so starved for attention, comes along should we all pander to their insecurities regardless of whatever outrageous lies they want to propagate? As I said before, I'm not a baby-sitter, and I doubt many other folks ( pro's) here are either.
My support, and mentoring come at a price and it should be clear what that is by now.
"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)
Yes I agree Ken...however my remarks were "in general" and NOT just about this or any particular post actually. I've seen the use of words as weapons for many many months on many replies to posts and felt the need to respond.
Of course I too get emails, PM' and requests for quotes from people and studios in many countries weekly, who have no idea of the word "budget" and/or more so who just want to play the game :-) Thus I just read between the lines and take it into consideration.
My thinking is purely... "can't we all just get along"...there is enough war in the world. (bla bla bla) that is all and it does NOT pertain to any one single post, more so the forum in general and such past posts in reply.
Lastly kdiddy 13 my use of the word 'debate' was just a figure of speech :-)
it seems somebody would only hire such young blood if they had extreme principles in this industry already....
but hey, i suppose that answers why the WB...is not so good...
"who wouldn't want to make stuff for me? I'm awesome." -Bloo
I hear ya man. And I understand.
"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)
Woah! What si going on? I am confused... I am assuming this is in response to another thread?
Spooky....
"Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard" - Paul Simon
Maybe I missed the memo, but is "MySpace" down or something?
If you are afraid of plagarism, then sketch out something that is wholly new, or sketch an existing character from some other show. If you want to establish your bonafides, grab an pencil and get to it.
We are waiting, but I doubt anyone will wait 5 months.
"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)
Wow... I just read the other thread where I assume this all spun off from. That was possibly the funniest thing I have ever heard. Very creative way for the young fellow with the very long username to get his foot in the door with his "concept for a series". If he had not gotten greedy and tried to come off like some kind of executive with "a brand new idea of making ONE episode as a pilot, rather than a whole season", he may have at least gotten his foot in the door. I'll tell you what, friend... That is what a pilot is... ONE EPISODE. Otherwise, it would be pilotS (plural). But nice innovation.
Furthermore, if you were in fact as smart as you say you are, your grammar would be a lot more on the ball. Right Harvey? Come on now... You noticed it too... I know you did. :)
If I may make a suggestion, friend. Noone here is taking you seriously, and you have ruined your name on this forum. I would simply crawl away with my tail between my legs if I were you, and get some consoling from your close personal friends, Steven Spielberg, Robert Plant, or even Hulk Hogan.
This is the wrong place to try to B.S... As Ken said, there are a lot of us here that have a LOT of experience, and know the business inside-out. Try Animation Nation.
"Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard" - Paul Simon
If DDA thought he was treated poorly here, then he won't go anywhere near AN. What happened here will seem like a shiatsu massage compared to what the folks at AN will do... :)
Or did I give away the gag? ;)
Y'know Wade got me thinking, as Wade and others here are wont to do.
Sincerity is a odd little skill that seems to be harder to learn for some people these days.
All around us are these mixed messages about validation, accomplishments, success and self-worth, and its pretty clear some people get it all mixed up.
I'm sure that some folks that come onto sites like this get intimidated by the posters that have a great deal of experience. There's an inevitable comparson between skill levels and successes and I'm sure it can lead to more than a little "penis-envy".
Penis-envy is just so much bullshit.
Everyone starts out as nothing.
The only advantage someone more experienced has is that they started climbing the mountain sooner.
That can be simply by virtue of having been born years before.
People tend to forget that.
Egos are the best and worst thing a artist has. The best thing because fluffing an ego in the right way can get them to cough up heretofore unknown nuggets/secrets that can elevate a lesser talent. Egos can compell an artist to try to exceed their own best work, when faced with anothers best work. Ego's can reflect in the care and meticulous effort in a work.
The worst of an ego can emerge when a artist thinks he's above his audience or his peers. When an artist refuses to accept that his own effort may be weak compared to those around him.
Worse still, an ego can compell an artist to do insincere things to cover up their own weakness. Hey, denial and ego go hand in hand.
I've been a teacher for over a decade, and I took that path because I wanted to give back to the artform. It also taught me how little I know.
I did not do it to prop the vain or the lazy up--I have no time for them.
I have no time for insincerity either.
If someone throws something on to the table, and I sense that its not sincere I'm going to call it as that.
If I patronize them instead then I'm the one not being sincere.
I'll be pretty damn harsh with someone that I find has lied to me because they've just shown they cannot be trusted.
Why should I, or anyone else do otherwise?
Call it some tough love.
Even those folks without a fricken clue, the one's that just don't have talent and quite possibly never will, can get some of my time........as long as they are sincere and honest about what they are doing. What their talent level is at is irrelevant.
We all started out as nothing, remember?
Sincerity, like trust, takes a LONG time to re-establish once its lost.
I could careless what a person does, but WHAT KIND OF PERSON they are matters to me.
It blows my mind that there's still people from all walks that haven't reasoned something as simple as this out in their heads.
If someone doesn't know something, then learn so you know.
If someone wants to become something, then do so you truly become.
If someone wants to hide something of themselves from others, stop because you are only hiding from yourself.
There's nothing wise in what I've just said because I'm just repeating what's in all the life lessons that surround us.
"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)
Charles and Brian keep their pitchforks sharpened and ready-at-hand over there.
"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)
If only he would read and digest this.
Pat
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I haven't posted much on here in a long time. I'm actually an old member that was under the name Maxx. When AWN was hacked I lost my information so I started over.
I was just reading this thread and it gets me mad. It gets me mad because I have not read anything by Dark Angel that has seemed hostile or demeaning to anyone. All I have seen is someone who has written , replied , and made some claims. So, what?
have those claims hurt anyone regardless if they are true or not? I have been on this board longer than Harvey and know what he is about. Harvey has always been one to instigate, to make unnecessary comments when there is no reason for it ( now you know why I commented to you the other time). In all my time on this board I think the only thing I have ever seen from Harvey is his avatar. No website , no email contact. Nothing. This is a guy who loves to call people out all the time but yet has not shown himself.
I am just sorry that others took his lead and joined that wagon. Would any of you really have cared that much if Harvey hadn't been pushing it?
I feel bad for this kid , 1 if he is telling the truth (I've seen weirder things happen) and 2 for having to learn a life lesson from good old Harvey. Either way you older , more mature guys should feel bad for acting like idiots to a kid.
I hope you stay around, stay around to see the day Harvey shows his work. you know supposedly he is an animator and illustrator. I haven't seen anything though.
Swade, long time
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i`m laughing so hard right now...
amazing...
JUAAAAA!!! JUAAAAA!!!
Ok.. ok.. stop.. JUAAAAA!!! JAAA!!! JUAAAAA!!! ho ho ho! do sJUAAA noooo ho no! no more! JUAAJUUAAAJAUAAAJAUAAA... haaa.. ahaaa. so.. so funny.
Come on kid.
Animation? who needs it? We have the Soap Opera! Don`t take too serious Ape and the others. This is just a little fun with the kid.
Now, now, Killjoy.
Don't accuse me of somehow controlling the minds of the other forum members. They all have their own relationships with Dark Angel and can think for themselves, as you'd know if you bothered to read the recent threads.
If you have no problem with Dark Angel lying to everybody and pretending to be a television executive, then just leave it alone.
Don't object to discord by trying to start a fight with me. It's just silly.
.
I remember seeing some of Harvey's work, I think. Didn't you do the Felix the Cat stuff, Harv, or did I get that wrong?
i really dont get it. why would you expect someone to be lenient on DDA?
Killjoy, i dont know you but i can gurantee that i was on to DDA long before he started tooting away. especially with his crap about vertical integration. Harvey may or may not be an instigator but i think people here have enough of their own minds to use them and voice their own opinions.
if he was just posting benign nothings it would have been one thing. But to constantly toot your own horn, show nothing you have created and then on top of it pick on other posters or people. that is totally unacceptable. then he started insulting people like Ape and hassling someone like Bioptix who is genuinely hitting a tight spot.
Also, just becaue the bloke says he is 17 it dosent make it so. could very well be a 35 year old wanker living on his social security.
you play with fire, you get burnt.
Yeah, I've had a bunch of my illustration and animation on this forum and I've done all my avatars; not that it should be at all relevant.
A person can present their opinion here without having to display their portfolio first, as far as I'm concerned. Experience in the industry does not automatically make someone an expert on quality.
I can vouch for that. I'm the fifth squeakiest wheel here and I haven't shown work in ages. Being civil has its merits =)
again, I say, SO WHAT? who cares if the kid (or 35 yr old) lied or didn't. I would suspect a huge number of people on the internet lie.
I can't say that I really believe angel ,I also can't be 100% sure he's lying and , yes, his writing is quite strange.
I may have missed it but I didn't think I saw angel saying anything negative until the verbal attacks started. Maybe I'm wrong. Even if I did ,I don't remember anything that bad.
I imagine Ape and Bioptix took the high road.
Skinnylizard, you seem to really be bothered by this kid. You own your own studio, What do you care what this kid says? Why not ignore his posts?
this brings me back to Harvey and the reason I wrote. Why doesn't Harvey just ignore his posts? because Harvey has always liked to rile things up, be the man. Oh, and then hide. why not accept email so you can continue in private?
you think Ape like other animation forums have a reason for locking down threads? Perhaps there are younger kids that come here to read and they don't need to read this stuff.
I'm glad you ( Harvey) chose AWN so you can say whatever you feel like.
My apologies to you. Kevan was right, I did see that 3 sec clip of Felix.
I must have missed all the other stuff you posted.
this is my last post on this. Harvey or anyone that feels they need to continue with me , just email ( I believe it should be working).
I knew there was a reason I had you (Harvey) on my ignore list. Hopefully you'll add me to yours.
Sajdera, I think I only read a couple posts in that thread. I never saw the verbal abuse. Sorry ,you had to go through that too. it might have been that time of month for Wade. I can say that Wade is one person I know that is speaking the truth and is quite knowledgable. He does get passionate, maybe too passionate sometimes. I'll have to go read that whole thread.
I've both heard and read that many of the people in charge of WB animation were either fired from Disney animation for gross incompetance or were "demoted" to animation from live action as punishment for, again, gross incompetance.
Can anyone verify this? (It sure would explain their output in the past 10 years or more. :rolleyes: )
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i dont like people who waste time and pretend to be who they are not. being the internet it is possibly true that a lot of people lie but i give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
in the end i knew the kid was lying and i dont like liars, i dont want anyone to be taken in by one.
you mean i can be grossly incompetent and still get a job?
Just look at the Bush administration. :p
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:D :D
oooohhhhh
Hey....shhhh, don't tell any body, but what Haredev Hare is suggesting, is no joke, I have seen this myself, they somtimes have projects to deliver and are never in...the "artistic mood" if you get what I'm saying, their production run rival that of a studio, instead of a Network, the output should be spectacular but has much to be desired:(
Hey, where do you guys come up with these things, I've always wanted to "sell them out" hey I'm no snitch, it's just I too have been noticing some......waywardness here and there, but wait, I just realised something......I work at the WB:eek: YOU MEAN TO SAY......HUH! that I'm incompittent too.:)
He who seeks the truth, must first empty his heart of a false pursuit.
Diemeras Dark Angel
I am going to have to add you to my ignore list on here, Dark Angel. I just cannot believe you are still going on about working for WB after all the flack you have taken in here. It actually makes me sick to see you continuously going on with the BS. You are not fooling anyone.
"Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard" - Paul Simon
Ok... i thought that you all would see it before, but no. I have to tell you.
hellooooo!! hiiiii!!!
Don`t you see it? KiLLjoY_ is Diemeras! Is so obious. Read closely his posts. It`s funny, he "was an old member that just come back now", he writes much alike Diemeras (without the castle age thing, of course)... bla bla.. it`s too long the list. Read the post, see it and don`t keep feeding this kid need for attention.
KiLLjoY_... come on! that`s funny....
And the first step in this process is allowing yourself to admit that you don't know. It's a hard first step, and can be "politically" dangerous, but it's crucial.
Richard Williams told a story that went something like this: He had access to animation legends, and wanted very badly to know what they knew. So he'd ask them, but at the same time he'd adopt an attitude like he already knew. He was so buy pretending he "already knew" that he wasn't really listening and missed what they were telling him, so he'd have to go back later and ask again. This made him look like an idiot for not catching it the first time, in the eyes of the people he wanted to impress the most. Once he stopped pretending he already knew, he'd catch on a lot faster.
It's O.K. to admit you don't know - how else you gonna learn? :D
Sorry... That last post was written by the President of Ubisoft, posing as me... We all know that executives are concerned about on-line forums and such, so...
That is all :)
"Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard" - Paul Simon
its like standup night in here
heheehheh
Wow! good one, I actually felt that hit, ouch!. But you're goona have to do better than that.
Wait, I just realised...Who Are you! I don't know who you are, so your comments don't mean as much....try again when you're someone important!
Ouch! now that's gotta hurt.
He who seeks the truth, must first empty his heart of a false pursuit.
Diemeras Dark Angel
well whoever he is, it is i reckon a whole lot more honest and real then you can hope to be my 17 year old Craig McCracken clone
I'm sorry, I'm just...
I'm laughing so hard at this whole thread, I...
I don't think I can post
"I wish I could quit you!"
AAaaaaHAHAHHAHAHA
I didn't ignore his posts because I wanted to respond to them. If someone says something interesting (like "I'm a 17-year-old TV executive with the next hit cartoon show."), I respond. If they say something boring, I don't respond.
How is that difficult to understand?
Why don't you just ignore my posts, Killjoy? Is it because you always like to rile things up? Is it because you like to be the man?
"Hide"? I'm right here. You can say anything you want to me and I'll probably respond. How is that hiding?
So now you're gonna hide?
Yeah, it's because you're a terrible debater. You just embarrassed yourself by making up a bunch of crap about me and being called on it, and now you want to avoid it in the future by hiding from me.
Killjoy, within a few posts you've just done most of what you've accused me of doing. Could it be that you're projecting just a little bit?
(Someone email this to Killjoy, please. Thank you. ;) )
And back to the Dark Angel thing, this guy is no teenager.
The reason he can barely string a sentence together is not because he's young. It's because he's a foreigner (possibly Greek, given the names he's used) and English is not his first - nor his best - language.
As many internet pedophiles have learned, saying that you're a kid is an easy way to affect trust and sympathy.
Aww come on Sliz, I didn't mean bad, I was just joking, I reckon he took it too harshly because he left:( Damn! I didn't mean to upset him, I only poked fun at his comment.
Hey,:( Wade K, I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything bad, I was just joking....:(
He who seeks the truth, must first empty his heart of a false pursuit.
Diemeras Dark Angel
nah DDM i dont think he left coz of what you said, no one takes you seriously :p
In light of all this, I'd like to offer my services as an animator. My signature is a link to my student film online. It's slightly less than 6 minutes long. It shouldn't take up too much of your day.
If there is a position open at the studio Dark Angel is working at, I'm available. :)
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Now we're supposed to believe that the independently-wealthy 17-year-old animation producer with six college degrees went crying to his mommy because some strangers on a message board didn't believe his life story?
Diemeras, just stop talking about yourself, or your fictitious self.
Either return to discussing the thread topics, or look elsewhere for the attention you so desperately seek.
Hey folks, want it gift-wrapped? There's your proof--the kid just wants attention.
As I said before, if he was sincere about himself, he'd have crawled off with his tail between his legs. He's still here posting away and tossing barbs.
Why? He's an attention-seeker. In other words, a internet troll.
I'll be reporting this twerp in a second here, because its only going to get worse.
"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)
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